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Old Journal! (Assistance requested!)

Fri Sep 12, 2008, 9:38 AM
Okay, so the irony is that the title is entirely inaccurate as I post this, but considering my last journal hung around for four months, I’m sure it’ll grow into the role. ;P Actually, knowing me, I’ll screw it all up and post a new journal in a week, but whatever.

Anyway, the point of this journal (yes, there’s actually a point!) is that I’ve been researching this whole process of finding an agent and it’s waaay more complicated and formalized than I would have ever guessed. Turns out that there’s very specific methodology to writing a query letter with, naturally, differing opinions on the smaller details. I’ve been learning what I can and am starting to work on a couple versions of the query letter (and then I need to do a proper synopsis, yay!) but one of the big suggestions that one guy (an agent and author himself) puts out is that I should be comparing my book to something in a similar vein in so far as story, setting, etc.

The trick to this is that you need to find something that if you going with another book, you want to find something that the agent represented; something that he’s definitely familiar with and has already found success with; something that will make the query more personal to him. The problem is... I really don’t do a lot of reading. I’m a slow reader (I write faster than I read ;P ) and don’t find a lot of time for reading... and I can’t think of anything that really parallels Maelstrom’s story.

There’s a couple of movie franchises which I think are in the same spirit (action and adventure with a good dose of humour) but the setting is completely different as they aren’t “high fantasy” genre. I won’t mention them by name so as to avoid locking them into your brains. Why? Because I need help!

Not just the mental variety.

Any of you know a book which holds some comparisons to my work? List ‘em for me so I’ve got something to look at, at least! Movies and such as well; I’ll take anything to get me started. If nothing else, it’ll be interesting to get to know a bit about how you view it.

Of course, I’m taking a big leap of faith that I’ll get more than two responses, but hey... every bit helps. ;)

Okay, and now that I’ve made you read through all that... here’s some quick features!

*OmeN2501 consistently blows my mind with his amazing work and any fantasy fans will be able to appreciate his skills in this piece. Personally, though, I’m cheering for the dragon!

It takes a lot to impress me enough to fave a piece of fanart (just not my usual thing) but ~kerko’s painting of Mononoke is just pure beauty. I especially love that it gives her a more realistic look. Oh, yeah, and I freakin’ love that movie! *ahem* That is all.

~A2wildFox is a great person with a lot of talent but is vastly under-appreciated. She’s also got a story behind pretty much everything she draws (paints or whatever), so there’s some reading material there too. Yay!

And last but far from least, if you aren’t watching *Radojavor then you need your head checked. Of course, I am watching him but still probably need my head checked. Either way, the guy’s frickin’ brilliant. ;)

And once you’re done gawking at the pretty pictures... answer my questions! Now!

Fine, you’ve got one minute, but I’m timing you!

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off the top of my head, I can't think of anything... there was one series that I read about two or three years ago, that MIGHT be considered a bit similar, but the books were lent to me and I cannot remember the title or author or much of anything else about them... I'll keep thinking and perhaps something will occurr to me.

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I have very little time to read AND am also a slow reader. I'm slow in everything (except, I hope, thinking ;D ) so the only thing I've read that has fantasy and humor in it are the Discworld books from Terry Pratchett (I've read only 5, but just one is enough to fall in love with it, if you go for that kind of humor) and Myth Books by Robert Asprin (this I've actually read only a few pages, but they were quite good). Also some books from Roger Zelazny - only guy I know that's made a parody on his own work - and perhaps Alvin Maker series from Orson Scott Card (mind you, these are only books that combine fantasy, humor and some action, there's nothing more than that that's similar to Maelstrom).

Now that I think about it, there is one thing that reminds me of Maelstrom. It's a novel/manga/anime series called Slayers. Maybe you've heard of it, or watched it, but I'll assume that you haven't and draw a few parallels between the two, the way I see it (I feel like typing right now :P). I've only watched the anime, but from what I've read, it's not much different in either form.

The main two characters are Lina Inverse and Gourry Gabriev. Lina is a wandering 15 year old genius sorceress notoriously known for using much too powerful spells than needed and wrecking havoc in the process (only in the anime, though), and she's also a skilled swordswoman. Gourry is a magnificent swordsman, but painfully slow and unbelievably forgetful, and also kind, loyal and more than a bit naive.

The parallel I'd pull between Lina and Maellory is that they're both skilled with swords, both use offensive spells, have strong, somewhat bossy personality and short temper, although no physical resemblance (Lina is a short redhead, and one of the running gags is the size of her bust). Even though Maellory is much more normal and down to earth character, there's certainly a likeness between the two personalities.

As for Canaer and Gourry, one uses a bow and the other a sword, but both of them are skilled almost beyond match. Each have their own quirks that make them humorous characters (Gourry is less irritating, IMHO :) ) but the main traits of each are more or less the same and they both cause a similar reaction in other people ;).

Taking the series as a whole, I think I've read somewhere someone referring to them as dramedy - half comedy, half drama (action), which I think precisely describes Maelstrom as well. The comic scenes, mostly caused by Gourry, are followed by intense action scenes. It's hard to imagine the similarities if you've never watched/read it, but if you have, I think you'll agree with me about the similarities.

Now, after I've wrote all this, let me simply add that I doubt it to be a good practice to compare your book with a manga/anime, there's a great chance that the person reading the letter never even heard of Slayers :P but maybe my ranting can help you find someone who can find a book comparable to Slayers (so you'll not be limited only to people who have read Maelstrom).




p.s. when I think about movies, Pirates of the Caribbean comes to mind... I wonder what you'll say to that :D

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For me, the first thing that springs to mind is the Quantum Gravity series by Justina Robson. Robson is a sci-fi writer, and the books are marketed as sci-fi, but personally I'd think of them more as 'future fantasy'. I realise this is already sounding like quite a stretch, but the novels include many traditional fantasy elements (dragons, elves, demons, elementals, magic, etc.) and are written with a great sense of fun. While not precisely the same genre, I think Maelstrom would appeal to a similar audience.

The only problem is that Justina Robson is a British writer, with (I would assume) a British agent, and isn't very well known over here, let alone in the US.

Well, I hope there's something helpful in there.
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Definitely sounds like someone worth looking into, at the very least. Thanks for the info!

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I've vaguely familiar with Slayers; I've seen the first few episodes of the anime and I can see the comparison. Even before I to the end there, though, I was already thinking that an anime probably isn't the best thing to use. There's a lot of people who either don't see it as anything more than cartoons or that would be just flat-out unfamiliar with the series.

PotC seems a decent comparison in terms of the spirit of things and some of the general characters, but as with the two movie series I had in mind (Indiana Jones and Mummy, btw), I'm worried that mentioning them might make people think that Maelstrom takes place in a more modern or "real" world. Also don't want people thinking it's got anything to do with archeology, so PotC might have an edge in that respect. Might be able to do something else that was suggested for these, though, and say that it's like "Pirates of the Caribbean meets Eragon" or something. Except that Eragon didn't really impress me too much. ;P It seemed soooo incredibly cliche.

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"In matters of the heart, the greatest sorrow is to lose that which is dearest to you. The greatest crime is to take it for granted." -- Me
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Hm, maybe "Pirates of the Caribbean meets Lord of the Rings"? Still, I don't know what impression would it leave if you compare your work with two mayor movies, it might sound overly ambitious, if you know what I mean, but as long as you formulate it in a way that is clear that you do not think that your work is the next LotR, I guess you'll be ok - in the end, you have to compare it with something. Eragon is definitely the wrong choice, not just because of the film, but because of the books as well - I've skimmed through the second book and it starts something like "In the first book this and this happened, and then this and this happened" and it goes like that for a whole page or more - not the greatest storytelling, IMHO. They called the boy a genius, but in my opinion, he still has a lot to grow both in style and originality. It might be a good cliche, but it's still a cliche.

"Legend of Earthsea" could also be a good choice, not only it's a decent movie but it was based on a book by Ursula Le Guin, and even though I haven't read it yet (it's definitely on my "to read" list :D ) Ursula K. Le Guin is much more accomplished writer than Christopher Paolini.

What about "PotC meets Dungeons and Dragons"? Something in the line of "Dragonlance" book series or similar... I think Maelstrom falls better under "Sword and sorcery" than "High fantasy" like LotR - firstly, because high fantasy is mostly about saving the world, and secondly, because of the use of magic. I've been going through wikipedia the other day (I wanted to know the difference between a wizard and a mage) and found that in most fantasy works the ones usually to use magic are old wizards that only act as advisors or tutors to main characters (Gandalf, Merlin...) - the only reason Ursula K. Le Guin wrote the "Wizard of Earthsea" is to prove that a wizard can be a main character. This is not the case with Maelstrom, where magic is used on daily basis by a variety of people. On the other hand, Sword and Sorcery has got a really bad reputation at the moment... Maybe you should first select a subgenre that best suites Maelstrom, and then something from that subgenre to compare it with, and you should choose it very, very carefully...

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I'll immediately admit that I believe I've only read the first few chapters of Maelstrom... but I was reminded of a high fantasy romance/drama/adventure series of books I read called the Rhapsody Trilogy (Rhapsody, Prophecy, Destiny). I think Rhapsody leans more toward the romance portion at times (there are a good few sex scenes that immediately show the writer is a romance writer at heart), but something about the characters and pace reminded me a smidge of Maelstrom. I believe the Rhapsody trilogy is by Elizabeth Haydon.

Hope it helps!

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Well, I can guarantee that you're not going to be seeing any kind of sex scenes in my novels but I'll look into Haydon, at least. ;) Thanks!

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"In matters of the heart, the greatest sorrow is to lose that which is dearest to you. The greatest crime is to take it for granted." -- Me
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The sword and sorcery genre always comes off better in books than on the big screen, with the exception of the big time like LotR. Maybe because it's harder to script in explosions, so movie producers don't know what to do with it. ;P

Either way, the PotC meets D&D was actually one suggested by my wife as well, so might give it a shot, at least. I remember the Earthsea movie (if it's the one I'm thinking of) and it was pretty good. And, yes, I would never compare Maelstrom to LotR since it's not that "epic, save-the-world" type of fantasy. I was actually hoping to avoid that, since it just seems so overdone. You never know, she might save the world one day, but that's a distant future. ;)

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"In matters of the heart, the greatest sorrow is to lose that which is dearest to you. The greatest crime is to take it for granted." -- Me
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